It is one thing attacking pirates and killing them, but attacking your compatriots is something that a lowly person would do. Luffy still goes to PH and allies with Law. One Piece is a nostalgic IP that's launched itself into the future of manga and anime. This was one of the world's most pivotal events. An interesting parallel to real world, Is Indo-Pak war in 1971. Seeing that Kaido will not allow him to attack Whitebeard, Kaido retreated while Shanks followed Whitebeard to Marineford. If Luffy faces adversity like at Marineford, there is always that chance that Shanks can show up and save the day. Oden was dead. He managed to land an attack on Luffy, which gave him a huge scar across his chest. But the Marines have brought their own heavy hitters to the fray and when all's said and done, the world will be forever changed by the war's conclusion. Whitebeard, died shortly after confirming Rodger's rumor. I could be far from the Marineford arc, but I've heard from many people that the white beard arc is one of the most amazing arcs in one piece or in anime history. Akainu is among the Navy's top fighters and at the time of his introduction, he was the strongest among the three Admirals. While Luffy was being carried away, Akainu decided to kill him. Name: Edward Newgate, epithets "Whitebeard", "Strongest Man in the World", "Man closest to One Piece" ... Has sufficient leadership qualities to oversee a last-minute invasion of Marineford, an incredibly skilled military strategist, and a match for Sengoku the Buddha. His crew covered Whitebeard’s body with a black cloth where Blackbeard then entered. I do think Ace ultimately dies in this story, but I do kind of like the idea of him being able to liberate Tama and Wano along with Luffy. Every One Piece fan who hates Akainu knows that killing Ace is the biggest crime that he committed. To sum it up, Ace and Whitebeard die, and Blackbeard manages to take Whitebeard's power from his body and claim it as his own. If he never had the fruit from the start he would be about equal. He also attacked Coby, who was distraught by the astounding number of casualties. Throughout the Battle of Marineford, Whitebeard received 267 sword wounds, 152 gunshot wounds and 46 wounds from cannonballs — adding up to a total of 465 injuries at the time of death. I started reading manga five years ago. End of an Age: The characters all state it before the war even begins. Thoughts Before we get to the episode, I want to bring your attention to the opening. So to get into it, what probably doesn't change? Whitebeard then surprises the giant by causing an earthquake so massive, that the entire island tilts to one side. A One Piece Peggy Sue fic, D Sways the Waves of Time by rose7anne101, is a story where when Whitebeard dies at Marineford, he meets Roger in the afterlife. Why Whitebeard won the Battle of Marineford vs the World Government When we look at why Whitebeard went to Marineford and not to Wano, the most obvious aspect is Ace was alive, Oden was long dead. So to get into it, what probably doesn't change? He then storms into Marineford alone and uses the Gura Gura no mi with its FULL power to complete Whitebeard’s fight and wreck Marineford down to dust. Then another fleet popped up, behind that one, bearing the Whitebeard symbol. You do get 3D2Y, but with Ace there as well. Edward Newgate, more commonly known as Whitebeard was the captain of the Whitebeard Pirates and was known as "The Strongest Man in the World" after Gol D. Roger's death. As the Marines panic, Doflamingo laughs about how insane Whitebeard is, while Hancock continues to care only for Luffy's safety. The Whitebeard Pirates then head to Wano, faceoff against the Beast Pirates, and lose. No one can doubt Akainu's power, but during the Summit War, he was too preoccupied with the Whitebeard Pirates. "What if Ace hadn't died in Marineford?" Since when does Straw Hat have a relation to the Whitebeards?" The Strongest Man, Whitebeard is one of the playable Paramecia Class Characters in One Piece: Battlegrounds. It was quite a tragic death, in hindsight, it was quite avoidable. Is expected … Ace had been handed to the Marines by Blackbeard, who gained the position of a Shichibukai in return. Press J to jump to the feed. They are all outcasts, but if push comes to shove, they'll fight for one another till the end, even if it means death. They still see Rayleigh at Amazon Lily - which is where I guess the first change is introduced, but more on that later. He was set to be executed by Marines, but with the combined efforts of Luffy and co. he was set free. The Whitebeard Pirates' 2nd division commander Portgas D. Ace's public execution was scheduled to take place at 3:00 p.m. sharp. File:Ace before the execution.png. Garp dies. He'll save Luffy, and more notably here, Ace. WB was never dropped to the ground in the entire Marineford War and died standing, Kaido was dropped to the ground by everyonbe he has fought in Wano, Luffy in 923, the Scabbards and later Luffy in 1000. After seeing Ace die in front of his very own eyes, Luffy suffered a mental breakdown and he couldn't think clearly. This was confirmed by pirates and Marines alike. As for Whitebeard not checking in, how many times does it have to be stated in the series for it to get through people’s domes that Wano was a closed off country? Kaido destroys the Whitebeard Pirates - as part of his continuing journey as a pirate, Ace eventually mentions Tama to the Whitebeard Pirates, which then evolves into how the 2nd Commander before him was Oden. Whitebeard still dies - Ace is wounded heavily vs Akainu, but Whitebeard saves him in this scenario, but during the Akainu vs Whitebeard fight, Blackbeard takes over. 10 Anime Heroes Everyone Forgets Were Introduced As Villains, One Piece: The 10 Worst Things Akainu Did, Ranked, 10 One Piece Characters Who Are Based On Real Life Pirates, One Piece: 10 Fights That Might Happen In Wano Arc, One Piece: The Strongest Members Of The Heart Pirates, Ranked According To Strength, 5 Characters Who Will Join The Straw Hat Grand Fleet (& 5 Who Won't), My Hero Academia: 10 Plot Twists Fan Never Saw Coming, Black Lagoon: 10 Hidden Details About The Anime Characters Everyone Completely Missed. After Whitebeard was killed, it was clear that the Navy had the upper hand. Akainu used his skills to manipulate Squard into believing that Whitebeard only cared about Ace. The main reason why Shanks will die in One Piece. Akainu is among the most hated characters in One Piece, and there are plenty of reasons for so many fans to hate him. Retired Staff. Even though neither was able to fully send Marineford to the bottom, the quakes could be felt on a remote island, far from Marineford. Being prepared for death … The fruit would push him over the edge in a fight between their prime selves. When Whitebeard dies, Marine is fighting a harvest battle against Whitebeard Pirates. His crewmates called him 'pops' and he called them his 'sons'. Whitebeard's final order leaves his pirates distraught as they leave Marineford for the New World. However, Akainu was still chasing them. This is absolutely disgraceful as a Marine, who is supposed to protect the civilians and not kill them. There was a chance to save one, and not the other. Conversely, when he went to Marineford, Ace was alive. This happened after Luffy had taken down Doflamingo at Dressrosa. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Whitebeard is the pirate closest to obtaining the "One Piece" treasure in the entire world, and along with a couple of decades worth of experience, is the single most-dangerous pirate in his world. We don’t experience many deaths in One Piece, but when we do they are made to count. Demon Slayer: 10 Anime Heroes Exactly Like Tanjiro, Naruto: 10 Times Sakura Should Have Given Up On Sasuke, Naruto: Sasuke Uchiha's 10 Strongest Chidori, Ranked, My Hero Academia: 10 Fighters That Barely Rely On Their Quirk, Boruto: 10 Things That Annoyed Even Dedicated Fans, 10 Anime Characters That Are Just Like Batman, One Piece: 10 Strongest Marines In The New World, Ranked, Demon Slayer: 5 Times Tanjiro Saved The Day (& 5 Times He Was Saved), 10 Anime Heroes Who Killed Their Own Parents, Black Clover: 10 Fastest Characters In The Franchise, Ranked, Naruto: 10 Characters Who Should Invest In Taijutsu. You get Ace vs Burgess and Sabo vs Fujitora, and the rest of Dressrosa plays out largely the same. When Akainu mocks Whitebeard, saying that he will not surpass Gold Roger, Ace is provoked. Ace clashed with Akainu when he insulted Whitebeard. Sengoku began to grin, very slowly. Alternate Universe - Everyone Lives/Nobody Dies; Marineford Arc; Because this arc broke me; It needs fixing; So I'm fixing it; For Me; and for poor Tama; so screw the original author; Portgas D. Ace Lives; so does Whitebeard ; while Teach and Akainu die; Summary. When the cloth was taken, Blackbeard already possessed the gura-gura no mi. I can't decide if Ace dies before Luffy gets there or not though. 2. Very little has been revealed about Whitebeard's past, before he went on to create his crew, beyond being just another crewmember going by his real name, and that he wasn't interested in treasure, like the other pirates were, but instead, he was motivated by wanting a family. 1 Depicts a Vibrant Past... and an Already-Dated Future? I don’t think Luffy will defeat Blackbeard like other villains, it doesn’t mean they won’t fight. The Marineford Arc is probably by far the biggest turn of events in One Piece history as it features the first two deaths of major characters in the current story line. 2 Episode 483: Looking for the Answer - Fire Fist Ace Dies on the Battlefield (8.9) This is one of the … Many fans think it was foolish of Ace to attack Akainu, but when his father was being disrespected, he had every right to go for it. Well I must have gone blind then since all I saw in the latest 200 pages was Whitebeard talk and Whitebeard talk alone, which is different from wanting to avoid discussing storytelling/not being invested into it. The One Piece seems to be a cursed 'treasure' that comes with an infamous title - whoever is made 'King of the Pirates' isn't king for very long. … RELATED: One Piece: The Strongest Members Of The Heart Pirates, Ranked According To Strength. The arc spanned 33 episodes and ran from episode 457 to 489. He was a vice-admiral when Ohara was destroyed by a Buster Call. The God Of High School: Jin Mori VS Bam — Who Would Win? Akainu has done some horrible things and in this post, we will discuss all the horrible things that he has done. There is nothing worse for a father than to be betrayed by his own son. He continued to bully them, but he was ignoring the fact that Sengoku and co. were dealing with a bigger threat now. Click to expand... Because Whitbeard is the issue right now. Luffy went to Marineford in order to save his brother from being executed by the Marines. He deeply respected Whitebeard, but Akainu manipulated him at Marineford. Third Party Stops Attack : Shanks stops Sakazuki's attempt to kill Koby, blocking his magma fist with a sword. One of the saddest moments in the whole anime series, is when in One Piece Ace dies. Akainu, as we know, is a follower of 'Absolute Justice' and he is willing to execute each and every person who dares to stand in his way. Ace dies protecting Luffy, and becomes the first major confirmed fatality outside the flashbacks, discrediting 'No one dies in One Piece'. Jinbe, however, caused an outrage in the headquarters in his refusal to cooperate, and was transferred to Impel Down. There are still many characters that we are yet to see in the series. 3 skulls, 3 fruits, 3 powers, against the 3 admirals. If you've just set sail with the Straw Hat Pirates, be wary of spoilers on this subreddit! Meanwhile, Buggy uses a transponder snail and does a public broadcast on the Sabaody Archipelago, angering witnesses. Whitebeard's earthquakes tilt the city of Marineford. This manga does not care about that stuff. Shanks still shows up - Shanks effectively still ends the war by cutting off Akainu. That got that the Whitebeard Pirates' attention. Whitebeard still dies - Ace is wounded heavily vs Akainu, but Whitebeard saves him in this scenario, but during the Akainu vs Whitebeard fight, Blackbeard takes over. This is without a doubt the worst thing that Akainu did. This happens while Luffy is saving Sanji in WCI. Luffy arrived at Marineford with his allies to save Ace. Jinbei still joins Luffy, after running into him in Fishman Island, I imagine he'd be in Udon as well, along with Kid. Naruto: 10 Plot Points That Were Abandoned Before The Ending, Bleach: 10 Times Ichigo Met His Match (But Won Anyway), Negasonic Teenage Warhead: How Deadpool's BFF Really Entered the X-Men's World, Iron Fist - Heart of the Dragon #1 Celebrates the Marvel Martial Artist, Future State: Nightwing #1 Puts the Boy Wonder Back in the Spotlight, Future State: Superman - Worlds of War #1 Expands the Hero's Legacy, Future State: Immortal Wonder Woman #1 Is a Neon-Lit Fantasy. However, Akainu had other plans. Somewhere along their journey, hi… In particular, the death of Yonko Whitebeard, along with the resignation of two Shichibukai (Jinbe, and Teach) and one revoked (Moria), causes the loss of the balance of the Three Great Powers. I remember watching Marineford weekly back in 2011 and seeing Whitebeard absolutely wreck Akainu, he may have had a hole in his chest by the end of it but he definitely destroyed Akainu, or so I thought. Dec 18, 2020 #7,264. Well, the citizens of Dressrosa were protecting him and Fujitora couldn't really do anything about it. So, Akainu forbade Fujitora to come to the Navy HQ until he caught Luffy. Dec 28, 2020 #11 Whitebeard has tailored his fighting style to match the fruit. convict He who Greets with Fire. Bigmom does not have better feats than Whitebeard and neither does Kaido. Squard was one of the allies of the Whitebeard Pirates. Secondly, it would have given him the possibility to at last die, considering how many powerful characters were there. Ace, before the … If you want discussion, please sort the subreddit by New. He didn't care about the allies of the Whitebeard Pirates and he was merely using them to buy some time. Over the years, I have grown very fond of it and, now it is my passion. Akainu tried to put up a fight, but it was all in vain. Akainu mocked Whitebeard in front of Ace and Ace was not gonna have any of it. Big war. He was successful in freeing Ace, but Ace sacrificed his life to save Luffy's life. If it wasn't for Shanks, Coby would have been dead. convict He who Greets with Fire. I don't know whether i'd have Ace die on Wano during the final raid, or save him for Blackbeard ultimately. Edward Newgate, A.K.A. He chased after the pirates and kept on attacking them. When Coby asked the war to be stopped, Akainu just attacked him. Then, years later, I went on to read the manga from the beginning and came to a very different conclusion. Edward Newgate, better known by his epithet "Whitebeard", was the captain of the Whitebeard Pirates and considered to be the most powerful of the Four Emperors ruling over the New World (the second half of the Grand Line), and the only person to have ever battled the Pirate King to a draw. Also, the fact that he avenges killed family is the first thing we ever know about Whitebeard. There were a lot of casualties and Akainu was keen to add more to the list. The son of the pirate king Gol D Roger and his lover Portgas D … Continue reading "One Piece Ace Dies – The most tragic scene in One Piece" After the death of Whitebeard, the Whitebeard Pirates were running away as it was the final wish of their captain. So one is about preserving family, and the other … NEXT: 5 Characters Who Will Join The Straw Hat Grand Fleet (& 5 Who Won't). One of the saddest moments in the whole anime series, is when in One Piece Ace dies. So I'm really just doing this cause it's an off week, and I want to think of how the story would have been affected had certain elements changed. Whitebeard then delivers a quake-imbued punch to John Giant's chest, defeating him. My favorite manga is Berserk. Whitebeard's dying revelation that One Piece is real is seen as the beginning of a new phase in the Age of Pirates. Jun 30, 2020 #32 Extravlad said: Whitebeard saying he can't be the strongest forever means he knows he will die at Marineford, not that he isn't CURRENTLY the strongest. Sengoku was ready to commit seppuku. We saw this at Marineford when Akainu attacked Marines, who didn't want to fight. Whitebeard still dies - Ace is wounded heavily vs Akainu, but Whitebeard saves him in this scenario, but during the Akainu vs Whitebeard fight, Blackbeard takes over. Conversely, when he went to Marineford, Ace was alive. They are all outcasts, but if push comes to shove, they'll fight for one another till the end, even if it means death. However, 22 years had passed since the Pirate King's … I even recall a line explaining that even executing Ace in advance wouldn't stop Whitebeard from coming to Marineford, but my memory may be failing me here. That does not seem like something Oda would want for his protagonist who is trying to be the King of the Pirates. 'Still,' Sengoku thought to himself, 'we can handle this, the losses will be worth it to wipe out the Revolutionaries.' This would have resulted in an even more broad war, between the Whitebeards, Kaido’s crew and the World Government. The WB pirates have their hands full with the other Admirals, and can't interfere. Calm Before the Storm: Ace's Secret Revealed. The Whitebeard Pirates retreated as they wanted to respect the last wish of their captain. There was a chance to save one, and not the other. The WB pirates have their hands full with the other Admirals, and can't interfere. RELATED: 10 One Piece Characters Who Are Based On Real Life Pirates. Great moment, and the fact Whitebeard “dies standing” was a great final act of strength and defiance. One of the most prominent moments in One Piece so far was the death of Whitebeard during the Marineford arc. "What if Ace hadn't died in Marineford?" We could have the tournament be some sick game to save Rebecca instead, and Sabo would takeover for Luffy still once the alliance plan goes south, because his intel suggests that he's in the right area anyways. Everyone got stunned after watching whitebeard. Luffy meets Ace and Sabo in Dressrosa - Ace is there because he heard the BB pirates were there (though it's only Burgess) and Sabo is there on Revolutionary business per usual. Whitebeard makes a declaration to the world and then dies. #onepiece #bestanimeWhitebeard shows up at marineford to save Ace from execution. The traitor of the Whitebeard Pirates." It is also not well known what really led to the bitter rivalry between him and Roger. If Luffy faces adversity like at Marineford, there is always that chance that Shanks can show up and save the day. But who Portgas D Ace really was? Akainu is a stern follower of 'Absolute Justice,' and he is very unlikely to spare the life of any pirate. This 95-plus volume series has sold more than 454 million manga worldwide, inspiring an anime with over 800 episodes, 14 feature-length films, and a slew of video and mobile games.In terms of success, Oda as a manga-ka has topped charts time and time … To sum it up, Ace and Whitebeard die, and Blackbeard manages to take Whitebeard's power from his body and claim it as his own. But who Portgas D Ace really was? Following some cryptic questions and comments by the Pirate King, Roger forcefully sends Whitebeard back in time to fix things, arriving just at a meeting between him and pre-Yonkou Shanks. Nothing gets in or out. A one-stop shop for all things video games. This is without a doubt the worst thing that Akainu did. Garp dies. Alternate Universe - Everyone Lives/Nobody Dies; Marineford Arc; Because this arc broke me; It needs fixing; So I'm fixing it; For Me; and for poor Tama; so screw the original author; Portgas D. Ace Lives; so does Whitebeard; while Teach and Akainu die; Summary Canute87 Nuke Imminent. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Retired Staff. A note on spoilers: If you haven't seen the Marineford arc yet, this interview does contain major plot points. One Piece: How good is the Marineford/ Whitebeard War arc? It seems like there was a small change in the part that has Blackbeard and his crew. Alternate Universe - Everyone Lives/Nobody Dies; Marineford Arc; Because this arc broke me; It needs fixing; So I'm fixing it; For Me; and for poor Tama; so screw the original author; Portgas D. Ace Lives; so does Whitebeard; while Teach and Akainu die ; Summary. However, this ability does not seem to specifically work on Blackbeard alone. This manga does not care about that stuff. However, things are different when we are talking about Akainu. Then the only missing Shichibukai showed up, a minor crew with him. It is without a doubt, the most emotional scene in One Piece. He was a member of the Yonko that ruled over the New World until his death during the Battle of Marineford. Despite this, there was not a single scar on Whitebeard’s back showing cowardice. To prevent Whitebeard and his crew's attempt to save their comrade, all of the high ranking Marines (almost one hundred thousand strong), along with the Shichibukai, were called to Marineford to prepare for the war. Blackbeard gets into multiple skirmishes with the Spade/Phoenix Whitebeard Pirates - Marco stays a pirate, and instead of a full on Grudge War taking place, I imagine more of a cat and mouse game between the two, with Blackbeard slowly assimilating power while avoiding Shanks and Ace. Then Whitebeard chose to walk out, talking to Shanks and Mihawk. His crew covered Whitebeard’s body with a black cloth where Blackbeard then entered. As a Marine, it was Fujitora's duty to catch Luffy, but he let him get away. 2- Shanks is TOO powerful to be an ally to Luffy in the grand scheme of things. There was plenty of action and drama. Due to the huge number of characters, the fans have a tough time choosing their favorites. If he suddenly lost the fruit Garp would win handily. After Akainu realized that he couldn't beat Whitebeard, he just hid underground until Whitebeard was killed. Ace got in the way of Akainu's attack that would have killed his little brother. As many fans would know, Ace died in the Marineford War protecting Luffy from being killed. Simply because he wanted to avoid a war of that scale (he even wanted to stop Whitebeard from attacking Marineford, though he couldn’t do it). "What?! Seems like Toei decided to update Blackbeard’s crew to include the new additions. I started writing about manga/anime so, that I might be able to reach out to fellow fans. 40 years ago, Whitebeard was part of the Rocks Pirates along with Kaido and Big Mom. Luffy still agrees to the 2 year training, as he realizes how close he did come to losing his brother anyways while being powerless to stop it, and I think that could be motivated by the Sabo flashback. Whitebeard saying he can't be the strongest forever means he knows he will die at Marineford, not that he isn't CURRENTLY the strongest. We don’t experience many deaths in One Piece, but when we do they are made to count. 1. When the cloth was taken, Blackbeard already possessed the gura-gura no mi. As many fans would know, Ace died in the Marineford War protecting Luffy from being killed. Blackbeard and co. were giving them a tough time and Akainu didn't seem to notice or care. In this post, we will be ranking the top 10 episodes of the Marineford arc based on IMDb ratings. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. We first saw this after Whitebeard’s death in the Marineford arc. Whitebeard's power was just too much. Today we’re gonna theorize about what possibly happened in the Shanks vs Kaido skirmish before the Marineford war.. We all know that when Kaido heard that Whitebeard was going to attack Marineford to rescue Ace, he wanted to go there as well and wreak havoc.. He went back and attacked Akainu. MarineFord Arc: This was the best arc for me in whole One Piece till the Dressrosa Arc came. The carnage on all sides might still lead to Coby being involved, so I imagine that part playing out the same. So sure Kaido will die but it’s not easy to kill Kaido, just Whitebeard caused big damage for Marines even he is sick and did all of this! He killed all the innocent people, who were on the ship. If he never had the fruit from the start he would be about equal. We all know Akainu's personality though, he wasn't going to listen to any excuses. The audience was full of shouting sounds, the impact of the collision, and a moment of noise. Welcome to r/OnePiece, the community for Eiichiro Oda's manga and anime series One Piece. so does Whitebeard; while Teach and Akainu die; Summary. Oden was dead. 10 Episode 480: The Path They Each Chose - Luffy vs. Garp! From the East Blue to the New World, anything related to the world of One Piece belongs here! Language: ... Well, Marineford is never going to be the same after an irate Master of Death decides to pop in to stop an execution. He gets killed by the 3 Admirals combined in the process. One Piece has characters of all sorts. As for Whitebeard not checking in, how many times does it have to be stated in the series for it to get through people’s domes that Wano was a closed off country? 'Air-quake': Whitebeard swings his arm (or arms) and literally cracks the air itself, sending devastating shock waves through the air in the direction it is facing.These shock waves are able to pass through and damage almost any substance, literally tearing it apart. It was quite a tragic death, in hindsight, it was quite avoidable. Ace meets Rayleigh - and while this does nothing to affect how he feels about Whitebeard, I do think he'd at least listen to Rayleigh and be more at peace about Roger. Dread Pirate. However, this ability does not seem to specifically work on Blackbeard alone. From WIkipedia: Task Force 74. Whitebeard was the only person who could match Roger at his prime. 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